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Unread 06-03-2010, 01:31 PM   #11
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I have been using [removed] for over 5-years and their sister company CitiPak.info for all local zip-code related email marketing. They do what they say and that means alot in email marketing. You can use your own lists or use theirs and I have found their lists are actually better than mine because they sign up their lists at home shows, trade shows, conventions and do not use any online registration. That's pretty unique and it is working well for me. Try them; they aren't expensive either

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Unread 06-07-2010, 05:47 AM   #12
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Having worked as an email delivery consultant monitoring about two million messages a month, I can tell you for sure that it is not a good idea to use a rented or purchased list to send out your email marketing messages.
Companies that sell or rent out "opt-in" lists are offering you lists that opted-in for "their" services not yours. Remember that it is not your list, it is theirs. Many times my clients wonder why their emails are going to the spam folders. That's because when your receivers start hitting the spam buttons (since they did not opt to receive your messages), your company name and URL get blacklisted and ISPs won't tell you anything about it because it is all confidential.
It becomes a little difficult or rather really difficult to then deliver your messages to Inboxes vs. spam folders. This is just a brief explanation.

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Ancient makes an excellent point but I found that eSenders.info does something very unique. Their subscribers sign up under the auspices of receiving various offers in return for free stuff that eSenders.info gives them monthly. In other words, the subscriber EXPECTS the offers. In effect, I am renting eSenders.info's brand. They do not charge for their list; it is included in the price if you want to use them or you can use your own list. They are an ISP and are also white-listed with almost all the ISPs. I like using them; there are some negatives but nothing that's a deal killer.
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Default The bottom line is - give them only what they expect!

If esenders.info can really do that, then that's good for them and you!
The bottom line is that if you send an email to somebody that they did not expect, most likely they will hit the spam button because that's the easiest thing to do than to go through the unsubscribe offer. I'm sure you and I and everyone else does that all the times.
If esenders.info can really setup the expectations properly and give away free stuff, there is a good reason for the subscribers not to hit the spam button.
Site Pro News does that also. They deliver quality articles by email daily, but also sometimes send messages of their advertisers. Since I still want to receive their articles, and although I may not like their advertisers' messages, I don't hit the spam button.
There are other tricks to get around the spam filters, but those are only meant for the experts

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Yes, they have been doing this for me for over 5-years and email has changed quite a bit in 5-years. I cannot keep up with the SPAM filter technology and the ONLY way emails get delivered is being white-listed which is a long dragged out process. eSedners does this all for me plus guarantees delivery. It does what I need done and I cannot complain. I only wish their servers were faster on big orders. Also I don't recommend trick around the filters either. Go with the pros; let them do their job. I will always gladly pay for expertise.
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yes [removed] the best online company that offer opt-in targeted emails for businesses.
Could you please back up your claims and state reasons why they are the best - the best in what way?

Why are they the best, What do they do, How the service works, how much it costs.

Between this and esenders.info which both i've not heard of before, and have little or no pagerank/alexa rank i'm not sure that these are established businesses

If this is your company, please remove your post and only promote within your signature and post your knowledge of this subject rather than just saying x company is the best.

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My claim they are best means they are best for me and the type of marketing that I do which is pretty much exclusively email. No, this is not my company and I am not promoting them. My intentions are to give credible assistance and information based on my experience. I sincerely hope your comment that you haven't heard of them doesn't imply that because you haven't that they are not credible. And Page Rank? Come on, do you really believe that everyone plays the Google game? Read their website. They interview their customers first before they accept them. They don't want their time wasted no do they want to waste their customer's time and money.

What they do is simply send my emails out either using my lists or I can use their list. Their subscribers come only from offline registration. They get all their subscribers from home shows, trade shows, conventions, etc. VERY BIG DIFFERENCE! Their subscribers are made part of their consumer group with a built-in brand and not some online co-reg who forget and label the emails SPAM. I have had tremendous experience using their lists and candidly their lists are better then mine. As I said, they do have issues with large orders but I am told this is being worked on.

In closing, I think you need to tone down your arrogance. I appreciate good feedback but your implications come across that you are some sort of an expert and if it doesn't pass your experience filter then it is bad. These forums are where people learn and where they can then evaluate the information given. People are not stupid and have no problem checking things out. Thanks for listening...
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I'm not being arrogant, the previous poster spammed these forums just after i posted the last comment.

What you need to understand is that these forums get spammed on a daily basis and i have to deal with this which takes time - what i don't want is people coming on here pretending that they use x service when in fact they are part of that company just wanting to generate business by deception - i want a completely unbiased forum and if people want to push their products they can do so in their signatures - i don't want any deceptive stealth marketing on here that is all.

Guess what?

It IS your company - that is why you are being so defensive.

Your website address from your email is appliedweb.info - and esenders.info is the email company.

Pinging appliedweb.info [64.191.93.107] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.191.93.107: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 64.191.93.107:
Packets: Sent = 1, Received = 1, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 94ms, Maximum = 94ms, Average = 94ms

ping esenders.info

Pinging esenders.info [64.191.93.107] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 64.191.93.107: bytes=32 time=94ms TTL=49
Reply from 64.191.93.107: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=49

Same ip address - too big a co-incidence.

You were actually not fooling anyone - this is NOT how to market your business.

You don't even know how to get your websites indexed in Google and you are lecturing us about how great your own company is.

Stop wasting all of our time with this esenders BS.

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There is actually a lot more effective techniques than that. A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE. (And accurate ) Than getting ppl to sign up to a mailing list.
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you can also check email marketing service by emailreach they also offer free trial.

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